Valenti’s White Feminist Legacy: How to erase people of colour from a genre they created

thankyoubasedsantorum:

bowfolk:

MCA’s Feminist Legacy: How the Beastie Boys brought hope to female hip hop fans

jessicavalenti:

For one of the first times, the music I loved loved me back.

GROSSSSSSSSSSS TO THE MAX.
WHAT THE FUCK. 

Like, please. Fuck off, Valenti.

“For one of the first times, the music I loved loved me back?” Is that some kind of bullshit dig at the rest of the rap music, the “big, black scary misogynistic” kind you white feminists love to shit on? Is that some kind of not-that-subliminal message that you couldn’t stomach rap music unless it was at the hands of three white men who occasionally said some shit about abuse because it’s not like black rap artists never talked about sexism? I guess the other topics discussed in rap/hip-hop never really spoke volumes to you, huh?

For you to elevate the Beastie Boys as some kind of representatives for “the music you loved” (rap) when in reality they were and have always been a minority in said genre, like. You are showing your ass real good. Real fucking good.

Let’s be real: the Beastie Boys were great to some people and that’s fine. But you know what bugs me about them and subsequently this article? The fact that all it took for them to make a name was being white boys in a black genre and speaking up. I’m not even going to talk about their anti-sexist ideals—wonderful things were done and I won’t deny that, but people stay acting like the Beasite Boys were some kind of feminist island in a genre full of black men who like talking about bitches. Fuck that. Y’all can keep trying to erase the efforts of anti-sexist black rappers, but I won’t. 

I’m glad it took the Beastie Boys speaking up about shit only you care about for you to realize that “[rap] loved you back,” Valenti—but it’s whatever. 

also a commentor of the nation blog post wrote this, which sums up the whole problem quite neatly:

…while I appreciate the sentiment quite a bit, the way it seems like you’re giving cookies to the one white hip hop group while talking about how the rest of the genre is so misogynistic is kind of making me a bit uncomfortable.

What about all the feminist female MCs of color? What about the black and Latino MCs who had similar messages about respecting women?

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borninflames:

Saul Williams, from the zine “Excuse Me, Can You Please Pass the Privilege?” — click the link to download, the whole thing is a fucking great read. And thanks to garconniere’s reblog which pointed me thataway!

i’m surprised that in all the conversations lauding how great of a feminist adam yauch/the beastie boys were, i haven’t really seen ANY race analysis so far. can anyone point me in the direction of articles they’ve read which have done that? if we’re going to eulogize the beastie boys and talk about their significance it isn’t possible to do so without talking about that.
also reblogging this because it’s fucking awesome and you should download that zine.

borninflames:

Saul Williams, from the zine “Excuse Me, Can You Please Pass the Privilege?” — click the link to download, the whole thing is a fucking great read. And thanks to garconniere’s reblog which pointed me thataway!

i’m surprised that in all the conversations lauding how great of a feminist adam yauch/the beastie boys were, i haven’t really seen ANY race analysis so far. can anyone point me in the direction of articles they’ve read which have done that? if we’re going to eulogize the beastie boys and talk about their significance it isn’t possible to do so without talking about that.

also reblogging this because it’s fucking awesome and you should download that zine.

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